Project Blue Book & Lucid Dreaming -- Coast To Coast AM - February 2, 2015

Date:     02-02-15
Host:     George Noory
Guests:     Kevin D. Randle, Robert Waggoner

In the first half, Kevin D. Randle, a retired U.S. Army lieutenant colonel who has a master’s degree and Ph.D. in psychology and a second master's degree in military science, discussed his experience with the Project Blue Book files when they were first declassified in 1976 and the versions of the documents he saw at Maxwell AFB. At the time, the files, which contained the US Air Force's record of UFO cases spanning over 30 years, weren't redacted very well, and he was able to figure out who many of the witnesses were. Jack Webb (of Dragnet fame) paid to have the files microfilmed for use in a TV show he was producing called Project UFO, and Randle was able to purchase a set of the images.

Interestingly, Project Blue Book wasn't the first government investigation into UFOs-- there was an unofficial study conducted out of Wright Patterson AFB, but all the files ended up buried under a golf course at the base, Randle revealed. In Blue Book, the Air Force often came up with conclusions that made little sense based on the case, he cited, such as in a 1966 incident in Portage County, Ohio in which police deputies were chasing a UFO, and the AF explanation was they were fooled by a satellite and then fixated on Venus. Randle also talked about the evolution of unidentified craft, and how triangular-shaped objects have become much more common than the earlier disc shapes.

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