Iran's nuclear deal with the P5+1 group of world powers in Geneva has
triggered a spin war which will last for the next 6 months, as many of
the parties involved will pursue their own business interests in this
situation, journalist Pepe Escobar told RT.
RT: As we see, US
Secretary of State John Kerry and Iran's Foreign Minister Mohammed Zarif
came out of the talks with different views. Why's there such diversity
in the interpretation of the deal?
Pepe Escobar: Because the
spin war started at 3am in Geneva. It's going to go on for another six
months, until May 2014, that's the duration of this "first step" deal.
[It's]
very important: Kerry had to say [this] so that he could appease the
Israel lobby, the US Congress and the Wahhabi petrodollar lobby in the
US, not to mention some neocons in the US as well, [who are] still very
powerful.
In Iran it's different. They are saying, "We still
have our right to enrich uranium," and this is correct, because they
will keep enriching uranium to 5 percent for the next six months,
[while] 20 percent [enrichment] is frozen. They will discuss... the next
deal, which will be the definitive deal, starting from May 2014.
And
all the 20 percent enriched uranium that they have is going to be
diluted, so it cannot be used later on for weapons-grade material.
RT:
As you've said, the spin war has started, but how that would affect the
implementation of the deal now and six months down the road? Who will
eventually benefit from it, if the two sides have such diverse opinions?
Won't it stall one day at some point?
PE: No, we have to follow
the letter of the agreement. This means enrichment until 5 percent OK,
no further enrichment till 20 percent for the next six months, no new
centrifuges. If Iran follows this -- they are abiding by the deal, no
problem.
The thing is, if among these IAEA inspectors [who]
should be in Iran practically on a daily basis from now on, if you had
the usual Eiffel traders [Parisian residents who fraudulently "sell" the
Eiffel Tower to unsuspecting visitors -- RT] who start spinning
something else.
I'm sure Iran won't break their promises, it's in their own interest not to break any promise.
RT:
It's emerged that Washington was engaged in secret talks with Iran long
before the Geneva agreement, and even their closest allies were
unaware. What do you make of this?
PE: Look, this is an extremely
complex negotiation. Can you imagine that you have sherpas going to
Geneva a month or three weeks ago, and hammering out the final deal so
[that] we have foreign ministers [who] can sign it? It's impossible.
Sherpas usually start such things months in advance and obviously we had
America's sherpas, Iranian sherpas and Russian sherpas, these are the
ones that count. Britain and France are spectators; they don't count at
all.
France counts [regarding] the 20 percent [enriched
uranium], because they have cornered the market in medical isotopes. If
Iran reaches 20 percent enrichment and starts selling their own medical
isotopes cheaper, especially to the developing world, it's not a good
deal for France. So for the moment France is protecting its business
interests.
RT: Let's turn to America's assessment of the
situation, specifically what President Obama said. Looking at the Geneva
deal, he said this is just a first step to reach a comprehensive
solution in the future. What in your opinion would make Washington
consider a full agreement?
PE: Obama is correct when he said,
"This is the first step." But, very important, the way he said it was
very condescending, in fact even insulting, to Iran. He said nothing
about Iranians' role in the deal, mentioning only the role of absurd
sanctions, which should be dismantled, because most of the sanctions
bypass the UN, like Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has been
saying for months in fact.
Very important, for the next few
months: follow the money. The Americans say they are going to unfreeze
some of the Iranian money, perhaps $32 billion or even more. There is
$10 billion in European banks. These are not going to be unfrozen. If
the US unfreezes $4 to $5 billion -- Obama can do it by executive order,
bypassing the US Congress.
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