Noam Chomsky - Israel Is On The Road To Self Destruction











Transcript : well when I refer to israel in these 0:04 remarks I generally have in mind the 0:08 United States and Israel it's important 0:12 particularly for Americans to recognize 0:15 that virtually everything that Israel 0:18 does is with the decisive support often 0:22 direct participation of the United 0:25 States that's economic military 0:28 diplomatic and not least the ideological 0:33 the way the issues are framed in the 0:35 united states quite differently from 0:37 elsewhere and when Washington draws the 0:41 line Israel obeys having no choice right 0:47 now 0:48 Israel is facing a very severe crisis in 0:52 fact double crisis a crisis of 0:56 legitimation and a crisis of dealing 0:59 gitam ation those are the terms they use 1:02 and they're both matters of pretty 1:04 serious concern the issue of 1:08 legitimation is coming to a head in the 1:11 next few months at the United Nations 1:15 Palestine is appealing to the UN to 1:21 recognize Palestine as a Palestinian 1:26 state and also to admit a Palestine to 1:29 the United Nations the US administration 1:32 is pulling every string it can to try to 1:35 prevent it but it looks as if they may 1:39 do it that could come up as early as 1:41 September if it comes to security 1:45 council the United States almost 1:48 certainly veto it as it usually does the 1:52 most recent veto was three months ago 1:57 februari and that was a kind of an 1:59 interesting one that actually got some 2:01 attention most vetoes don't one thing 2:04 because there's so many of 2:05 but it's rarely recognized how isolated 2:10 the u.s. is at the UN on a whole range 2:12 of issues the that the last one did get 2:17 some notice because it was a little 2:18 unusual the Obama administration vetoed 2:22 a resolution affirming Obama's official 2:26 policy that got some notice the 2:29 resolution called for an end to 2:33 settlement expansion in the West Bank 2:36 which theoretically is supposed to be 2:38 Obama's policy about the u.s. vetoed it 2:42 want to read something embarrassing take 2:45 a look at the Ambassador Susan Rice's 2:47 explanation I thought you should have 2:50 had the dignity to resign 2:52 anyway the resolution also add another 2:58 aspect to it declared the settlements in 3:03 the West Bank illegal and of course the 3:05 Golan Heights which nobody talks to them 3:07 at the regard to MIT declared that they 3:11 are illegal and it's important to 3:12 recognize that that's non-controversial 3:14 in fact Israel itself recognized that 3:17 back in late nineteen sixty-seven that 3:20 recognize the highest legal authorities 3:22 advised that the Attorney General agreed 3:26 that any transfer of population into the 3:29 occupied territories is in violation of 3:32 the core principles of international 3:34 humanitarian law the geneva agreements 3:38 and technically the israeli supreme 3:41 court also recognizes it that they find 3:45 various ways around it was repeatedly 3:49 been recognized by the Security Council 3:51 and 3:53 most recently a few years ago by the 3:56 International Court of Justice the World 3:58 Court with the US Justice in a separate 4:02 declaration affirming the conclusion 4:06 that this wasn't technically about the 4:09 separation wall that affirming that any 4:12 part of the separation wall about 4:15 eighty-five percent that's there in 4:18 order to protect the Israeli settlements 4:21 is de facto in violation of 4:24 international law because the 4:25 settlements are illegal so that part's 4:28 not really controversial the other part 4:32 of the resolution was reaffirming 4:35 official US policy but Obama decided to 4:38 veto it 4:39 the general assembly in the coming 4:42 session is a little different the United 4:45 States can't veto General Assembly 4:49 resolutions so it'll probably be another 4:51 one of the familiar resolutions again 4:55 not just on Israel on a whole range of 4:58 topics overwhelming the rarely gets 5:01 reported but there's vote after vote 5:04 which is you know a hundred and eighty 5:06 two three or something like that 5:08 the us-israel sometimes some pacific 5:11 island or something like that sometimes 5:14 it's even worse sometimes 252 one the 5:17 United States so probably happen again 5:20 and probably won't get reported 5:22 recognition of the Palestine is already 5:26 quite overwhelming including important 5:31 countries like Brazil which is the most 5:33 respected influential country in the in 5:36 the South other South American countries 5:39 and quite a few others in fact Palestine 5:42 is now recognized by about over hundred 5:46 countries including about eighty-five 5:49 ninety percent of the world's population 5:52 that's far more than recognize Kosovo 5:56 but in the case of Kosovo 5:59 admission to the United Nations is 6:02 implemented because there's only one 6:04 vote that counts in a world that's run 6:07 by force and violence not law that's the 6:11 one with the big stick 6:13 so the United States supports Kosovo's 6:15 therefore it's in whatever the world 6:17 thinks the United States opposes 6:19 Palestine so it's out whatever the world 6:22 things 6:23 well this are important things to 6:25 remember the United States in fact is a 6:28 declining power for a lot of interesting 6:31 reasons many of them internally 6:33 self-inflicted but it's happening and it 6:36 may not be able to hold back the tide 6:40 forever even though it's got canada good 6:44 part of Europe kind of toddling along 6:46 politely for the moment at least the in 6:51 Israel the government and political 6:53 commentators refer to the coming votes 6:57 at the United Nations as it's tsunami 6:59 that they're going to have to do 7:01 something about and their flailing 7:04 around the decide what they might do it 7:07 could be dangerous 7:09 it's a unpredictable violent state with 7:13 plenty of force behind it and it has a 7:16 doctrine goes back to the nineteen 7:18 fifties the doctrine back to the 7:20 nineteen fifties is that if we're 7:22 pressed too far will go crazy 7:25 mr. gay is the Hebrew now back in the 7:28 nineteen fifties there were a lot of 7:30 ways they could do that but by the late 7:33 sixties there are two powerful nuclear 7:35 state they might do all kinds of things 7:38 i hate to think about it but one 7:42 possibility is another attack on guys so 7:44 there's bombing Iran you know who knows 7:46 what they'll do but something might 7:48 happen 7:49 I suppose they don't know themselves but 7:51 so of course we can only speculate 7:54 that's the legitimation of that Israel 7:59 tsunami is 8:00 the took another step forward just a 8:04 couple days ago with the unification of 8:06 Hamas and Fatah under Egyptian 8:11 initiative and that's important 8:14 the fact that it was Egyptian initiative 8:15 and it went forward is a reflection of 8:19 the really quite dramatic spectacular 8:23 changes that have been taking place in 8:25 the Arab world and North Africa and 8:28 bless the couple of months the Arab 8:31 Spring is it's called and this example 8:35 the unification is one of the many 8:37 reasons why Israel in the united states 8:40 are deeply concerned about what they 8:44 correctly regard as the growing threat 8:46 of democracy in the Arab world in this 8:50 particular case from 1991 the US and 8:55 Israel have been dedicated to separating 8:58 Gaza and the West Bank breaking them 9:01 apart that's in direct violation to the 9:04 Oslo Accords sign right the same time 9:08 which declare them to be a territorial 9:11 unity 9:12 well the unification it might impede and 9:15 might even reverse this process of the 9:19 separation of the two parts of Palestine 9:22 and even more dangerous the unification 9:28 might undermine Washington and 9:32 facilities dedicated efforts to prevent 9:36 any political settlement any diplomatic 9:39 settlement of the israel-palestine 9:41 conflict that settlement terms of that 9:45 settlement are very well understood 9:46 supported by essentially the entire 9:49 world including Iran 9:54 Hamas just reiterated its support for 9:57 the virtually everyone say unified 10:01 unification it's tough it's been 10:03 prevented for 35 years now by the United 10:08 States primarily and of course by Israel 10:10 again important to recognize i'll come 10:12 back to it 10:13 well that's the Krait basically the 10:15 crisis of legitimation there's also a 10:18 crisis of dealing gitam nation that 10:20 Israel's facing and that's the term 10:22 that's used when you read say the 10:24 Israeli press that process of the 10:27 legitimation was carried forward last 10:30 December when Human Rights Watch which 10:33 is a pretty cautious conservative 10:35 organization Human Rights Watch quote 10:39 called on the United States to suspend 10:42 financing to israel in an amount 10:45 equivalent to the costs of Israel 10:47 spending in support of settlements so 10:50 cut back any us support that goes to the 10:53 settlements and also called on us to 10:56 monitor contributions to israel from 10:59 tax-exempt us organizations that violate 11:02 international law including prohibitions 11:06 against discrimination that cuts a very 11:09 cast a very wide net for those of you 11:11 know the details of this in the 11:14 background is also a madness 11:16 international head also had already 11:18 called for an arms embargo on Israel 11:22 it's using arms and us arms in violation 11:25 of international law actually violation 11:28 of US law to the the background is also 11:32 a popular movement of divestment from 11:36 anything involving the occupied 11:38 territories in the United States 11:40 crucially that includes major US 11:43 corporations likes a caterpillar which 11:46 provides the equipment for the 11:49 destruction of the West Bank for illegal 11:52 construction also four straight murder 11:55 the Richard Cory case includes motorola 12:00 another major corporation which is 12:01 providing electronic systems for the 12:04 illegal separation wall again 12:08 uncontroversial illegal and for the 12:11 settlements all illegal and many others 12:15 and this is also extending beyond to the 12:18 broader boy cuts so that's the crisis of 12:21 dealing generation alongside the crisis 12:24 of legitimation and you can see why it's 12:26 considered you know what tsunami 12:28 something very dangerous and might 12:30 elicit a unpredictable and maybe a very 12:34 dangerous response 12:36 well there's a good reason why the 12:38 United States fears democracy in the 12:40 Arab world to find out why all you have 12:43 to do is to take a look at the poles of 12:46 our public opinion they're certainly not 12:49 the planners but they're not published 12:51 here and I presume they're not published 12:53 because the press doesn't want you to 12:55 know what people think I can't think of 12:57 any other reason it's hard to think of 13:00 anything more important at this stage 13:02 with what's going on in the Arab world 13:04 than what our public opinion is I'm hear 13:07 a lot about what they are dictators say 13:09 but you don't hear about what the public 13:11 thinks that's very revealing 13:13 so what is the public the polls 13:15 incidentally are taken by the leading us 13:18 polling agency's most prestigious ones 13:21 they're released by major institutions 13:23 you know brookings institute and so on 13:25 it's inconceivable that the media don't 13:27 know about them and planner certainly do 13:29 and they're interesting so for example 13:32 in Egypt the most important country in 13:34 the Arab world about ninety percent of 13:37 the population regard the United States 13:39 as their main enemy made threat that 13:43 they faced opposition to US policy is so 13:47 strong that about in Egypt about 80% 13:50 think the region would be more secure if 13:54 he ran had nuclear weapons not just 13:57 nuclear and 13:57 tree but nuclear weapons the maybe ten 14:01 percent regarding right here as a threat 14:04 and the figures are a little different 14:06 country by country but that's roughly 14:08 the story throughout the Arab world so 14:11 you can see very clearly way the US and 14:14 its allies Israel of course and the 14:17 Western Allies it cannot tolerate 14:19 democracy in the Arab world not 14:21 authentic democracy at least the kind of 14:23 democracy in which public opinion would 14:26 have some impact on policy 14:28 I mean if it did in the United States 14:31 not only wouldn't control the region 14:33 which has been a primary goal for 70 14:37 years but it would be driven out and 14:40 that's no small things a major major 14:43 concern is with the maintain control of 14:46 the energy reserves in the world 14:48 concentrated there so of course the US 14:51 and its allies are very frightened of 14:54 democracy in the Arab world of course 14:57 they talk about democracy Stalin talked 14:59 about democracy to they can't they can't 15:03 possibly accept that will do anything to 15:05 block it and if you look closely at the 15:07 policies towards the various uprisings 15:10 you see it clearly could go back to that 15:12 if you like it should be should bear in 15:16 mind that there's nothing new about this 15:18 this goes way back and there's plenty of 15:21 evidence about it plenty of 15:22 documentation should be on the front 15:24 pages of the newspapers certainly should 15:26 be taught in schools so let's go back to 15:30 say to the nineteen fifties in 1958 15:33 print in then classified since then 15:38 declassified documents internal 15:41 documents President Eisenhower 58 raised 15:46 with his staff a problem that bothered 15:49 me 15:49 that he was concerned about what he 15:51 called the campaign of hatred against us 15:53 in the Arab world and not by the 15:55 government's which are more or less 15:57 supportive but by the people and wanted 16:00 a discussion of this well right at that 16:02 time the National Security Council which 16:04 is the highest planning body that came 16:07 out with a memorandum in which they 16:10 analyze that situation they said there's 16:14 a perception in the Arab world that the 16:16 United States supports dictatorships 16:19 harsh brutal dictatorships and blocks 16:23 democracy and development and that we do 16:26 this because we want to maintain control 16:28 of their energy resources and it went on 16:31 to say that the perception is more or 16:33 less accurate and furthermore that's 16:35 what we ought to be doing because we 16:37 want to control it and democracy would 16:39 get in the way 16:40 well that was 1958 to fast-forward to 16:44 2001's plenty in between little skip it 16:49 and you'll recall that in right after 16:52 nine eleven George W Bush made a 16:57 pathetic speech in which he asked the 17:01 why do they hate us 17:03 eisenhower 17:05 his answer was they hate our freedoms 17:12 well that elicited a study by the 17:15 Pentagon Pentagon research group defense 17:19 Science Board which I think was reported 17:23 here but they essentially reiterated 17:24 with the National Security Council I 17:27 said in 1958 they said they don't hate 17:30 our freedoms they had our policies and 17:33 then they went through it essentially 17:35 the same policies they haven't changed 17:37 what they should have said is we hate 17:40 their freedoms and we hate their 17:42 freedoms for a really good reason 17:44 if they're free we're not going to carry 17:47 out these policies and we want and we're 17:50 beginning to see that there's a doctrine 17:53 it was articulated pretty well by former 17:59 Jordanian high official Marwan washers 18:02 that middle east specialist the special 18:06 research specialist for the carnegie 18:07 endowment and great during the arab 18:09 uprisings he said that this general 18:13 principle which is that as long as 18:16 everything's quiet as long as the 18:19 population isn't is under control and 18:22 then the powerful can ignore the 18:24 population and do anything they like 18:26 that's call it the washer doctrine a 18:29 very very wide application actually 18:32 applies within the United States as well 18:34 rather crucially so the washer doctrine 18:38 holds and therefore we don't care about 18:40 the campaign's of hatred we don't care 18:42 that they hate us we hate their freedoms 18:46 are good read 18:46 will ignore the polls all this became 18:49 pretty dramatically clear here just in 18:52 the last few months with WikiLeaks 18:56 exposures the of all the WikiLeaks 18:59 exposures the one that got the most 19:01 publicity you know big headlines love 19:04 you for common theory it was that the 19:06 Arabs support us policy on Iran and 19:10 that's a core US policy now isolating 19:13 you know undermining Iran and the Arabs 19:16 support us that was the headline love 19:18 clapping and so on 19:20 well they were talking about the Arab 19:21 dictators what about the population 19:25 like I said the population is about ten 19:29 percent think you ran as a threat and a 19:31 considerable majority think the reason 19:33 would be better off they had nuclear 19:34 weapons but under the washer doctrine 19:37 doesn't matter as long as they're 19:40 suppressed by the dictatorships that we 19:43 back our know somehow silenced then we 19:49 can do what we like if the Arab 19:50 dictators support us who cares about 19:52 anyone else 19:53 now that's strikingly not just the 19:56 diplomatic record that's the press 19:59 that's the intellectual community the 20:01 whole intellectual community just read 20:04 the commentary on this and see general 20:07 assumption maybe they'd like to have 20:10 here and have nuclear weapons but as 20:13 long as the dictators are with us who 20:14 cares as long as they're quiet 20:17 that's the prevailing attitude right 20:20 through the whole educated articulate 20:22 community not just on this issue and as 20:24 I said it holds domestically as well 20:27 we're thinking about a different topic 20:29 well the Arab Spring has had a number of 20:32 effects already one of them i just 20:35 mentioned Egypt did move forward to 20:37 bring about the indication that the u.s. 20:40 is and is really quite a bit concerned 20:43 about that's only one one thing I mean a 20:46 couple of weeks ago Egypt the new egypt 20:50 to allow d ready and ships through the 20:53 Suez Canal into the Mediterranean and 20:55 as first time that's ever happened in 20:58 the US and Israel don't like it 21:00 mediterranean our lake not anyone elses 21:02 and they broke with that the it looks as 21:08 if they're going to move to open the 21:10 guy's a border the closing of the Gaza 21:14 border participating in the Israeli 21:16 siege is very unpopular in Egypt and it 21:19 looks as if Egypt is taking some steps 21:21 now to open the border which would break 21:25 the siege and that's critical the went 21:32 in the background is another question 21:34 which is uncertain 21:36 there is a treaty of Egypt Israel treaty 21:40 1979 which is also extremely unpopular 21:44 in in Egypt on the population if you 21:48 read about it here there's a lot of 21:50 concern that they may weaken it or maybe 21:54 even rescinded the way it's described 21:57 here is literally you know New York 22:00 Times that the treaty is very important 22:02 because it helps preserve stability in 22:04 the region that's very interesting 22:06 commentary because what the treaty does 22:09 is preserve instability in the region 22:12 and that's very clear and explicit as 22:16 soon as the treaty was signed 1979 22:18 Israel recognized for its obvious but 22:23 they of course also recognize that with 22:25 a treaty with it with Egypt the main 22:29 Arab deterrent is out of the game 22:32 Egypt is the main by far the main 22:34 military force the only big organized 22:36 military force in the region so with the 22:38 Arab deterrent gone 22:40 Israel's free to proceed with its 22:43 policies elsewhere kind of trivial they 22:46 can expand illegal settlement of the 22:49 occupied territories and critically they 22:51 can attack their northern neighbor 22:52 Lebanon that was recognized right away 22:56 you read Israeli strategic analysts who 22:58 very uneven and others they said 23:00 straight off look this is we didn't like 23:03 the treaty much but it has a good side 23:05 we are free to do what we like 23:07 because there's no deterrent any longer 23:08 and right away Israel planned its 23:10 invasion of lebanon a couple years later 23:13 and total fakery about pretext go into 23:18 it if you like and it was no small thing 23:20 the invasion of lebanon a 92 killed 23:23 maybe 20,000 people devastated the 23:26 southern Lebanon destroyed a large part 23:29 of beirut it finally got so bad that the 23:33 u.s. was backing it all the way Reagan 23:35 photos great you know but they back to 23:39 however got to the point where you know 23:41 even Thomas Friedman who this is going 23:44 pretty far he was a reporter and Beirut 23:47 and it kind of dawned on him that having 23:50 bombs dropping using water fun so he 23:52 started writing critical comments about 23:55 the bombing 23:56 ok now we're at the outer limits and it 23:59 was it was becoming a really an 24:00 international scandal so the Reagan kind 24:04 of order Israel to terminate in 24:06 mid-august 1982 lot of Horrors happened 24:10 after that like summer she loved another 24:12 story but that Israel of course had to 24:14 obey they had the choices even though 24:17 the novel beggin the Prime Minister was 24:20 talking at the time about how Hitler's 24:23 hiding in his bunker and we got to go 24:25 after that's a yes or our foot but the 24:29 boss said no so they stopped and they 24:33 often did something else and sober 24:34 steelmaster the 60 in fact the the 24:42 treaty contributes to instability in the 24:44 region but in the technical terms of us 24:48 political discourse that's stability 24:51 stability means something that we like 24:54 instability is something we don't like 24:57 literally so for example you take a look 25:00 at Iran 25:02 the big threat of Iran now is that there 25:04 are destabilizing the region 25:06 how are they destabilizing it they're 25:09 trying to expand their influence into 25:11 neighboring countries Afghanistan Iraq 25:14 when we invade and occupy and destroy 25:18 those countries that's stabilization 25:20 when they try to expand their influence 25:23 into the neighboring countries that's 25:25 destabilization and that makes perfect 25:28 sense if you own the world and that's 25:30 and and that is the basic assumption of 25:35 us culture we own the world if anybody's 25:38 in the way they're doing something wrong 25:41 definition this reaches such a level 25:49 that you can even get things like this a 25:52 couple years ago the former editor of 25:55 Foreign Affairs and the establishment 25:57 journal James chases liberal sensible 26:00 liberal commentator was writing about 26:02 the u.s. overthrow of the parliamentary 26:06 regime and in Chile installation of a 26:09 brutal dictatorship 26:11 no shit dictatorship and he literally 26:13 said reluctantly we had to destabilize 26:18 chili in order to bring about stability 26:20 and nobody saw that is contradiction and 26:24 they're right it's not 26:26 we had to destabilize it in order to 26:28 bring about our rule under a 26:30 dictatorship which is by definition 26:31 stability so that's what it means when 26:35 the New York Times others tell us that 26:37 the peace treaty is the foundation of 26:40 stability in the region that's the 26:42 foundation of our rule of the region but 26:45 the Egyptians may not go along with that 26:47 so we'll see the isolation of the US on 26:52 these issues is quite significant than 26:55 you should be talked about in a free 26:57 society so takes a ran again 27:01 Iran is the centerpiece of US policy its 27:04 last year was called the year of Iran 27:06 and foreign policy journals around 27:09 is no major issued and story is that 27:14 Iran is isolated 27:16 it's the international community is 27:19 isolating Iran who's the international 27:23 community 27:24 well that's another technical term like 27:26 stability the international community is 27:29 of course the United States and anybody 27:32 who happens to be going along with it 27:33 like Israel maybe for some marshall 27:37 islands that's the international 27:39 community literal so take a look at Iran 27:42 the non-aligned countries which is most 27:46 of the world have been vigorously 27:48 supporting Iran's right to develop 27:53 nuclear energy they've been doing that 27:54 for years but they're not part of the 27:56 international community the Arab world 27:58 that not only supports Iranian the right 28:02 to develop nuclear energy they actually 28:04 go so far as to support already nuclear 28:06 weapons so the Arab were world is not 28:09 part of the world the international 28:12 community the leading you know the 28:15 leading countries of the world like 28:17 again brazil the most respected country 28:19 i mean they talk strongly reject the US 28:22 policy in Iraq Turkey the major regional 28:25 power they object to US policy in fact 28:28 that Turkey and Brazil recently just 28:31 worked out a deal to handle the uranium 28:35 enrichment policy the u.s. quickly shot 28:38 it down because they don't want anything 28:40 getting out of their hands so they're 28:41 not part of the international community 28:43 in fact the international community in 28:45 this case is the United States Israel 28:48 canada large parts of Europe that's the 28:52 international community that's pretty 28:54 isolated instantly we might ask what is 28:57 this Iranian threat that we're so 28:59 worried about actually the right in 29:01 governments are rotten 29:02 that's a terrible threat to its own 29:04 population but unfortunately it's not 29:07 unique in that regard including our 29:10 friends and that's not the threat 29:12 because we support governments which are 29:14 horrible threats to their population so 29:17 what's the threat 29:18 well actually there's an authoritative 29:20 answer to that which again would be 29:22 front-page news in a free press every 29:27 year the Pentagon and US intelligence 29:30 that provide analysis of the global 29:33 security situation to Congress the last 29:36 one about a year ago of course had a 29:38 section on the Iranian threat big 29:40 section so what's the Iranian threat we 29:43 can look it up on the internet and find 29:45 down the they point out that the Iranian 29:48 threat is not a military threat around 29:52 in military expenditures are very low 29:54 even by the standards of the region I 29:57 mean minuscule was compared to the u.s. 29:58 of course they say that they go into his 30:01 Iranian military doctor and they say 30:04 Iranian military doctrine is strictly 30:06 defensive it's designed to deter an 30:09 invasion long enough so that diplomacy 30:12 can sit in they say very limited 30:15 capacity to deploy force they say they 30:20 talked about the nuclear the possibility 30:22 of developing a nuclear capacity they 30:25 say if Iran is developing a nuclear 30:27 capacity it would be part of their 30:29 deterrence strategy deterring the 30:32 us-israeli attack and if any country 30:35 needs at the turret it's ran just take a 30:39 look at the geography it's completely 30:41 surrounded by a military bases of a 30:44 hostile violence superpower and that's 30:48 constantly under threat threat of attack 30:50 in violation of UN Charter if anyone 30:53 cares about that nobody sane once your 30:57 and have a nuclear weapon I don't think 30:59 despite whatever opinion is but it's 31:02 possible that they're developing a 31:03 nuclear capability 31:05 no and if so yeah it's likely part of 31:07 the deterrence strategy chances they use 31:09 it almost zero they be vaporized 30 31:13 seconds of the amount of the missile but 31:16 so that's that's part of the threat of 31:20 deterrence there a deterrent and they do 31:23 it raining deterrent would limit what 31:25 the US and Israel can do you know if 31:28 you've got to be careful if somebody 31:29 could attack you with nuclear weapons so 31:32 put a limit on us and Israeli 31:35 aggressiveness and violence and that's a 31:37 threat and the other one the other 31:38 threat which they go into is what i 31:40 already mentioned their destabilizing 31:41 the region by trying to expand the 31:44 commercial cultural and other relations 31:46 with their neighbors 31:47 that's the Iranian threat and on this 31:50 the u.s. is quite isolated the real us 31:55 can sort of tolerate with dismay turkeys 31:58 disobedience but there's another country 32:00 that's much more worrisome that's China 32:02 China doesn't take any nonsense 32:05 china is regarded as a great threat by 32:08 the United States because they refused 32:10 to be pushed around their sense china is 32:13 look we've been here for three thousand 32:15 years fending off the barbarians and ok 32:19 you want to make noises that's your 32:20 business 32:21 we're paying a country and that's really 32:23 frightening like if you're say the Mafia 32:26 Don and somebody says I don't mind 32:29 paying attention to you and you can't do 32:31 anything about you're in trouble and 32:33 that's the problem with China not 32:35 Chinese aggression it's just 32:37 disobedience the his name in fact if you 32:41 look at the Washington pronouncements 32:44 there's a kind of a touch of desperation 32:46 in them so the State Department recently 32:48 on Iran issued warnings to China saying 32:53 if you want to be admitted into the 32:55 international community you know us then 32:59 you have to meet her you have to meet 33:00 your international responsibilities and 33:03 your international responsibilities are 33:05 to obey us sanctions 33:07 well US sanctions have no validity 33:10 whatsoever except that the u.s. is a 33:12 powerful state and can smash people up 33:15 but the china is observing un sanctions 33:19 which are mostly toothless and the u.s. 33:22 is condemning them for that they say 33:24 yeah they're they're not meeting their 33:27 international responsibilities China 33:30 just laugh 33:31 they don't care of us is unhappy that 33:34 they're not obeying the meaningless US 33:38 sanctions that's infected this as in 33:42 many other cases the u.s. is most of us 33:45 just refusing go along 33:47 that's part of the reason why the u.s. 33:49 is in fact a declining power but there's 33:52 much more to it than that 33:53 however that's not the topic let's 33:55 return to Israel Palestine specifically 33:58 the their mentioned a few crucial 34:03 moments of recent history is a lot to 34:05 talk about the most important real 34:07 turning point was nineteen sixty-seven 34:10 was in 1967 with the 1967 war that the 34:17 us-israel relations were solidified and 34:20 pretty much the current form a big 34:22 change from before and a new framework 34:25 was established in the region so what 34:27 happened 67 well in the background was a 34:30 war that was going on between radical 34:34 Islamism and secular nationalism in the 34:37 Arab world a radical Islamism is 34:40 centered in Saudi Arabia the most 34:43 extreme fundamentalist arab state of the 34:47 extremely hub is the most extreme form 34:50 of Islam supporters of jihad missionary 34:54 movement and so on 34:55 that's centered and Saudi Arabia so 34:59 that's radical Islam court at that time 35:02 secular nationalism was centered in 35:04 Egypt masters Egypt there was a war 35:08 going on between Saudi Arabia and each 35:11 the proxy board in the Yemen and it was 35:15 serious 35:16 the United States and Britain have 35:19 traditionally supported radical Islam 35:23 almost always Saudi Arabia and Pakistan 35:27 you know sported information of Hamas 35:31 it's very consistent us been very strong 35:34 written two very strong supporter of 35:36 radical Islamism there's a reason 35:38 because if they considered a barrier to 35:41 secular nationalism and secular 35:43 nationalism is the real threat not only 35:45 in the Middle East but everywhere for 35:47 example secular nationalism might 35:49 involve a move towards real independence 35:52 and towards the taking over the 35:54 resources of the region and using it for 35:56 its own population instead of for the 35:59 west and for you know the ruling 36:02 gangsters and that's a threat so very 36:07 consistently the US and his and Britain 36:09 have supported radical Islam Israel to 36:12 in 67 Israel effectively destroyed 36:16 secular nationalism that was the main 36:19 outcome of the war and defended Saudi 36:21 Arabia defended radical Islam and that 36:24 was a big plus for us policy and 36:27 relations with Israel change almost 36:29 totally at that time militarily 36:32 diplomatic alee ideologically you know 36:35 all kinds of ways 36:36 well that was continues but the after 36:44 that in nineteen seventy couple years 36:50 later 36:52 the Jordan us back dictatorship and 36:55 Jordan was carrying out a real massacre 36:59 of Palestinians black September's called 37:01 it looked for a while as the Syria might 37:04 intervene to prevent the massacre us 37:08 pretty upset about that at the u.s. at 37:11 the time was completely bogged down in 37:12 Southeast Asia just invaded Cambodia you 37:15 know that things were totally impossible 37:17 couldn't do anything it called on israel 37:20 to react Israel mobilized its quite 37:25 formidable military forces Syria back to 37:28 off that was considered a positive step 37:32 in protecting the hashemite monarchy and 37:34 also the saudi arabian monarchy and in 37:38 fact the US aid is required triple or 37:40 quadruple that year and sir continued in 37:44 the Nixon Nixon was president and the it 37:48 was a mix of doctrines of gold and the 37:50 Nixon Doctrine was that the way that the 37:55 u.s. ought to have surrogate States 37:57 carrying out the dirty work couldn't do 37:59 everything by ourselves anymore and in 38:01 the middle east there had to be what 38:03 were called cops on the beat the cops on 38:07 the beat and keep the place under 38:08 control had to be non our they do a 38:12 better job killing Arabs so Pakistan 38:16 Iran has been up to the Shah Turkey 38:19 Israel there the cops on the beat at 38:22 police headquarters of courses in 38:24 Washington and there's a branch office 38:26 in London that's essentially their way 38:29 around the region Israel with joined as 38:32 one of the cops on the beat at that time 38:34 and that's stayed pretty much like that 38:37 in nineteen it became critical in 1971 38:42 that was one 38:43 most important moments in Israel's 38:45 history i think in 1971 the president 38:49 the president of Egypt present so that 38:51 offered Israel full peace treaty full 38:54 history 38:57 nothing for the Palestinians Palestinian 39:00 issue hadn't really reach the 39:01 international agenda then so Palestinian 39:04 some words about refugees the quid pro 39:08 quo is that Israel was to withdraw from 39:10 Arab territory and in fact Egypt only 39:14 cared about Egyptian territory occupied 39:16 sign actually Jordan came along a year 39:18 later with a similar proposal with you 39:21 over the West Bank well Israel had a 39:24 choice at that point crucial choice and 39:27 they made a fateful decision i think 39:29 they could have had talked almost total 39:32 security a peace treaty with egypt and 39:35 jordan nothing for the Palestinian 39:38 Syrians out of the game that's 39:40 essentially as much securities you can 39:43 get in this world the alternative but 39:46 they had to decide we want security or 39:49 do we want expansion 39:50 well the primary expansion at that time 39:53 was into Egypt it was into the Egyptian 39:55 Sinai Israel at that time was driving 39:58 thousands tens of thousands of veterans 40:01 farmers out of the Sinai they were 40:04 laying plans to build a big city meet 40:07 them on the ocean million people a lot 40:10 of settlements and so on and they 40:12 decided they'd rather have expansion and 40:15 security question is what would the u.s. 40:18 do as always in the u.s. went along with 40:20 them 40:21 Kissinger supported that this is what he 40:23 called stalemated his 40:24 memoirs no negotiations just force that 40:28 had a lot of consequences that one 40:30 consequence that led to the 73 war was a 40:32 very close thing for Israel another is 40:35 it set the stage for what amounts to 40:38 have time to go into the details but 40:41 since then there's been essentially 40:43 permanent choice of accepting expansion 40:47 over security Israel could have security 40:50 right now on accepting the international 40:53 consensus but they want expansion and 40:55 now it's primarily in the West Bank and 40:57 the illegally annexed to go on Heights 41:01 which people don't talk about the 41:03 security council declared illegal but us 41:07 didn't care so Israel doesn't the and 41:11 that that remains the situation there 41:13 was 71 72 in January 1976 the major Arab 41:19 states Egypt Syria and Jordan 41:22 neighboring states bro resolution to the 41:26 Security Council calling for a two-state 41:29 settlement by then the Palestinian issue 41:31 had reached the international agenda so 41:34 they called for a two-state settlement 41:36 on the international border they 41:37 recognized international border 41:39 so-called green line and then the 41:43 resolution added the standard wording of 41:47 the major diplomatic documents un 242 41:51 recognition of the rights of every state 41:54 in the region to live in peace and 41:56 security within secure and recognized 41:59 borders 42:00 it's basically the resolution the u.s. 42:03 heated vetoed a similar resolution in 42:06 1980 the Security Council's ruled out 42:10 shifted to the General Assembly and then 42:13 you get these annual votes with you know 42:16 are 51 2 3 and so on year after year the 42:19 most recent Linda's februari the next 42:22 one will be 42:23 this winter session very likely well 42:26 that's meanwhile settlement expansion 42:30 continued in the Oslo agreements came 42:34 along in 1993 with a total disaster for 42:38 the Palestinians quite predictably the 42:40 don't say in retrospect Rove at 42:44 immediately because it was obvious the 42:46 pace of settlement to increased steadily 42:51 right through the nineties not to the 42:53 peak year with your 2,000 points last 42:56 year Gaza was closed off and separated 43:00 from the West Bank and violation of the 43:02 Oslo treaty and that's been us is really 43:05 policy since i'll quote the American 43:10 hostage one of Israel's leading 43:13 journalists wonderful journalists and 43:15 also this domain their main specialist 43:17 on gaza she's been there for years and 43:20 she writes that the total separation of 43:23 the gaza strip from the West Bank is one 43:26 of the greatest achievements of Israeli 43:28 politics whose overarching objective is 43:31 to prevent a solution based on 43:33 international decisions and 43:35 understandings and instead dictate an 43:38 arrangement based on Israel's military 43:40 superiority and the u.s. backs it that's 43:45 very bitter means that students and Gaza 43:48 for example can't to go a couple miles 43:51 at the universities in the West Bank the 43:54 patients who have to go to a Jerusalem 43:56 hospital or pretty much bar people can 43:59 visit their families and a couple of 44:01 kilometers away and meanwhile repression 44:05 intensified and Gaza was reduced to 44:08 misery 44:08 well in 2005 became the famous 44:12 disengagement Israel had about 7,000 44:16 settlers illegally in Gaza using a large 44:21 part of the meager resources and 44:24 and maybe thirty forty percent and 44:27 defended by big mass of the Israeli army 44:30 and general char on the move was Prime 44:33 Minister the most hawkish Israeli leader 44:36 be recognized rationally it just made no 44:39 sense to keep the small number of Jewish 44:42 settlers in Gaza which by then had been 44:46 utterly devastated used to be a pretty 44:48 healthy place but totally destroyed by 44:50 then so that was pointless 44:52 it made a lot more sense to take them 44:54 out and send them to settle illegally in 44:59 the West Bank which Israel want so that 45:02 was the disengagement but you couldn't 45:04 present it that way so a farce was 45:07 enacted a really comical first if Israel 45:13 hit that they could have just done it 45:14 very easily they could have just said 45:16 you know in august for first the IDF the 45:20 Army is going to withdrawal from gaza 45:22 and at that point the seven or eight 45:25 thousand settlers would have climbed 45:28 into the lorries that were provided for 45:30 them and be taken from there illegally 45:34 subsidized homes and Gaza there 45:36 illegally subsidized homes in the west 45:38 bank and I would've been the end of it 45:39 but that was no good you have a PR 45:42 operation so what they staged stage this 45:46 correct was a confrontation so you get 45:50 front-page news papers and pictures you 45:53 know the little boy pleading with the 45:56 army not to destroy his home and so on 45:58 and then the cries of never 46:00 again you know holocaust that we have to 46:04 stay in West Bank forever 46:06 no such a transparent force that was it 46:09 was ridiculed in Israel and what made it 46:12 even more of a force was it is a replay 46:14 of something that was done a couple 46:16 years earlier when I had to withdraw 46:18 from Yummie finally seen the sign on but 46:22 it passed the Western press accepted it 46:24 and that's a model for what could happen 46:27 in the west bank if the u.s. takes a 46:29 stand 46:30 well that was the that was the 46:34 disengagement the best description of 46:36 what happened next this from one of 46:39 Israel the two of Israel's leading a 46:42 commentary historian needed their towel 46:45 and Lucky there got held are made 46:48 diplomatic correspondent now they write 46:50 that after israel withdrew its forces 46:52 from gaza in august 2005 the ruined 46:56 territory was not released for even a 46:59 single day from Israel's military grip 47:02 or from the price of the occupation that 47:05 the inhabitants pay every day Israel 47:08 left behind scorched-earth devastated 47:11 services and people with neither a 47:13 present nor future the settlements were 47:16 destroyed an ungenerous move by an 47:19 unenlightened occupier which in fact 47:22 continues to control the territory and 47:24 kill and her assets inhabitants by means 47:27 of its formidable military might 47:30 which can be exercised with extreme 47:32 savagery thanks to us thanks to firm us 47:36 support and participation 47:38 well the attacks continued that was 47:41 august 2005 the Israeli us tax continue 47:45 the escalated in january 2006 in that in 47:50 January the Palestinians consider did 47:53 carry out a major crime that may be the 47:56 worst time they were carried out and 47:58 they had a free election and they voted 47:59 the wrong 48:00 way that's not allowed and the u.s. 48:07 reacted instantly go back and look at 48:10 the newspapers within days the United 48:13 States announced harsh punishment of the 48:14 Palestinians Israel to force your kind 48:18 of went along as usual so and in fact 48:21 we're apparently what the desert all and 48:23 old are described picked up the 48:25 significantly then I won't run through 48:28 all the details but there were repeated 48:31 escalations in journ 2007 Hamas which 48:38 won the election injured what was 48:43 described is that was described as this 48:46 and put in june two thousand seven there 48:48 was a civil war in which Hamas drove out 48:51 FATA us favorites and that showed that 48:56 they're just a gang of terrorists that 48:58 what actually happened is really not 49:01 contested the US and tried to initiate a 49:05 military coup to overthrow the results 49:08 of the elections that standard operating 49:10 procedure us does that all over the 49:12 world so they try to military coup is 49:15 run by a strong man man I'm a tough one 49:19 the crew the coup was preempted by Hamas 49:23 and they drove out the Palestinian 49:25 Authority and they did take over 49:27 well that's the Hamas crime not that 49:31 they're nice people 49:32 it's a harsh brutal organization i 49:35 wouldn't want to live into their rule 49:36 but that's a separate story the and of 49:40 course the attacks then escalated again 49:43 siege tighten in june two thousand eight 49:47 there was a true school 49:51 between israel and hamas and start very 49:56 important actually 2008 there's a 49:58 ceasefire basically so no Hamas rockets 50:02 and is really call off the siege notice 50:05 a siege is an act of war Israel of all 50:08 countries insists on that Israel has 50:11 launched two major Wars 5667 on grounds 50:16 that it was very partially blocked from 50:19 the outside world very partially through 50:22 the streets of Tehran the total sieges 50:25 of course an active work so the terms of 50:28 the troops were Israel would call off 50:30 the siege Hamas which stop rockets will 50:33 Hamas lived up to that hundred percent 50:36 you can read it in the official 50:37 us-israeli records they concede that 50:42 during the period of the truth that 50:43 wasn't a single commander rocket Israel 50:46 never accepted the truth maintain the 50:48 siege that was jun 2008 in november two 50:52 thousand eight the day of the u.s. 50:55 election you know everybody's paying 50:57 attention to that Israel invaded Gaza 51:00 scented troops killed half a dozen 51:04 hostility ins meaningless pretext and 51:10 then rocket firing started again and I 51:12 went up and back there were all the 51:14 deaths as usual or Palestinian but it 51:16 did continue until december in late 51:21 December Hamas offered to renew the 51:23 truth the Israeli cabinet considered and 51:26 rejected they had a choice then they 51:30 could have had a truce no Rockets they 51:33 would have had the weekend the siege but 51:36 they decided to reject it and instead 51:37 invade gaza with us support that was the 51:41 december two thousand eight january 2009 51:44 invasion which you know about or should 51:47 the u.s. supported the invasion as 51:51 always us weapons us intervene at the UN 51:55 to prevent the ceasefire Obama was had 51:58 been elected but 51:59 and taking office but he wouldn't say 52:01 anything about it 52:02 his line was there's only one president 52:05 so I can't say anything 52:07 Presidents Bush he was saying things 52:09 that are kind of other topics like that 52:11 Pakistani terrorism so on but couldn't 52:13 say anything about this us attack on 52:16 Gaza which was destroying the attack was 52:20 very carefully calibrated so that would 52:23 end hours before the inauguration that 52:28 did that save Obama the necessity to say 52:32 anything about it now he was the one 52:35 president but it stopped so he could 52:37 give the usual story about let's forget 52:40 about the past and look forward to the 52:42 future and so on 52:43 very convenient story for those who told 52:47 the club's others don't like it much so 52:50 that right after that obama gave his 52:53 first infact only major speech on enough 52:57 israel-palestine it was an interesting 52:59 one he made one good move 53:02 he appointed George Mitchell as his 53:05 negotiator is a sensible move however he 53:08 immediately undercut it by making it 53:11 clear that Mitchell would have no 53:12 authority the way he did that was clever 53:16 clever enough so that the press and 53:18 commentators could pretend they didn't 53:20 our standard what he said was take a 53:23 look at it but you know January 28 53:25 something like that 2009 roughly he said 53:29 I said there's now a great chance for 53:32 peace we have to move forward for peace 53:34 no peace process he says there's a 53:36 constructive plan on the table the error 53:39 peace plan said finally the Arabs of 53:42 come along with the plan actually they 53:44 can no longer in 1976 but let's forget 53:47 about that but now the Arabs have come 53:49 along with a plan and their plan calls 53:53 for normalization of relations with 53:54 Israel and he called on the Arab states 53:57 to move forward with their plan and 53:59 normalize relations with Israel you know 54:01 obama is an intelligent 54:03 favorite person you can read Harvard 54:06 degree and so on 54:07 he knows perfectly well that that's not 54:10 what the plan said the plan reiterated 54:13 the international consensus on a 54:16 two-state settlement and went even 54:18 beyond it 54:19 it said once that's established we 54:22 should move on to normalize relations 54:23 with Israel well Obama omitted carefully 54:27 omitted the guts of the plan and said 54:30 normalize relations with Israel that's 54:33 his way of telling the world where I'm 54:34 going to do anything 54:35 we're going to block piece which is 54:38 exactly what it meant and exactly what 54:40 happened settlement expansion continued 54:43 Obama claim to be opposed to it but he 54:48 made it very clear to Israel that the 54:50 opposition didn't mean anything 54:52 he was asked is that spokespeople were 54:54 asked its press conferences are you 54:56 going to do anything if Israel violates 54:59 your demand to end settlement expansion 55:03 he said no this is just symbolic 55:05 in other words mr. Netanyahu go ahead 55:07 and do whatever you like he was asked 55:10 specifically are you going to do what 55:12 the first George Bush did first George 55:16 Bush did impose very mild sanctions 55:19 women if Israel violated its demand that 55:23 they not expand sanctions Clinton ended 55:26 them but wish that the bush with obama's 55:29 with specifics with you know we're not 55:31 going to do that we're not going to do 55:32 what bush did just symbolic 55:34 so it's a clear statement go ahead and 55:36 expand the settlements which is exactly 55:38 how is understood 55:40 meanwhile George Mitchell was kind of 55:43 displaced by Dennis Ross Ross come 55:46 straight out of a pack is it was 55:49 clinton's negotiator his position as he 55:51 says is there is a symmetry between 55:53 israel and palestine israel israel has 55:57 needs that Palestine only has wants so 56:00 therefore we can dismiss them that's the 56:03 neutral negotiator is now the leading 56:06 advisor then comes a series of steps up 56:11 to the veto of the UN resolution 56:14 last februari they are bleak meanwhile 56:18 they do talk they actually have voices 56:20 they don't say much but they do say some 56:23 things like a couple months ago they 56:26 called for two no-fly zones you heard 56:29 about one of them they called for a 56:32 no-fly zone in Libya and the big uproar 56:34 about that great 56:35 no flies on Libya we got a bomb Libya 56:37 because the Arabs demanded they also at 56:40 the same time called for a no-fly zone 56:41 over Gaza not a word 56:45 no actually you can read about it you 56:48 can read about it in the London 56:49 Financial Times the main International 56:51 Business Journal someone around the 56:54 corners in the United States you could 56:56 read about the note national press that 56:58 no-fly zone over Gaza didn't conform to 57:01 US policies so therefore that when I 57:03 didn't exist the let's go on to what the 57:09 options are now what are the options 57:12 today 57:13 well in there's a lot of commentary 57:15 about this of course and the way it's 57:16 usually phrased is that there are really 57:18 two options one is the two-state 57:22 settlement which has been the 57:23 international consensus for 35 years 57:26 you know you can argue about this not 57:28 detail with the basic framework of over 57:30 this understood that's one and the other 57:33 option that's proposed is that Israel 57:36 should take it all over take over the 57:38 whole territory and then they'll be 57:41 civil rights struggle what kind of an 57:43 anti-apartheid struggle and actually 57:45 that's a position which is argued for by 57:47 a lot of supporters of the Palestinians 57:49 they say that even better in two states 57:51 that we could have an anti-apartheid 57:53 struggle that's a real delusion 57:56 those are not the two options there's a 57:59 third option a third option is that 58:02 Israel and the u.s. will continue doing 58:04 exactly what they're doing right now 58:06 what they're doing right now is 58:09 implementing over 58:10 you know what used to be called the 58:11 Sharan plan for general charan expansion 58:16 is namely Israel takes what it wants in 58:18 the west bank and we know what it wants 58:21 not a secret it wants everything behind 58:24 the separation wall which is in fact an 58:26 annexation wool that's terrible and 58:29 water resources the nice suburbs of the 58:33 Lewis limited even the highway system 58:37 connecting them and so they will take 58:38 that they'll take what's called 58:40 Jerusalem which is far bigger than 58:43 anything that was ever called Jerusalem 58:45 they've illegally expanded Jerusalem 58:48 illegally annexed it over security 58:49 council orders so they'll take Jerusalem 58:52 which cuts out a big piece of the West 58:54 Bank and I'll take the jordan valley 58:56 from which Palestinians are being mostly 58:58 evicted and settlements are being set up 59:02 that in prisons what's left 59:05 it's separated from Gaza so no outlet to 59:08 the sea or anything like that and then 59:10 they're cutting the corridors through 59:13 what's left the big Carter that goes 59:15 east of Greater Jerusalem was almost 59:18 Jericho essentially bisects the West 59:20 Bank big town mild human being built 59:24 there mostly under Clinton it started in 59:26 the seventies another corridor up north 59:30 it goes through RL another town another 59:33 one above that through the main still 59:35 another town it's essentially you know 59:39 breaks the remaining parts of the West 59:42 Bank up into almost non-contiguous and 59:47 unviable Canton's big infrastructure 59:51 projects too so that no Israelis and 59:55 visit American visitors can drive 59:57 through the whole area you know it never 59:59 even seeing a Palestinian maybe some 60:03 figure on a hill with a goat or 60:05 something 60:06 tourist office probably funds and you 60:09 know looks good but that's it and the 60:12 Palestinians can just rot not entirely 60:15 so like in Ramallah the US and in fact 60:19 Europe are Europe mainly our funding a 60:24 kind of an island of affluence so you 60:27 live in Ramallah you know nice 60:29 restaurants concerts and so on 60:32 that's the standard neo-colonial program 60:35 to go to any third world country in 60:38 miserable colony you can find islands of 60:42 affluence and you know 60:44 no glamour and so and beyond what we 60:49 have that's for the elites and that 60:52 shuts them up and meanwhile the rest 60:54 just collapses they can leave if they 60:57 want 60:58 well that's the third option and that's 61:00 the one that's being implemented so we 61:02 don't have to speculate about it being 61:03 implemented you're paying for it or your 61:06 parents if you're not old enough to pay 61:08 taxes that's and that's what's going on 61:12 before our eyes 61:13 so that's the real option and the 61:16 choices that are two states there is no 61:19 third option at this point you can think 61:22 of the longer-term know maybe down the 61:24 road they'll be something better but 61:26 it's gotta be a first step in the first 61:29 step is to states there's no other 61:31 proposal it's now argued very commonly 61:34 thatthat's impossible with settlements 61:36 have gone so far that's impossible 61:38 well the world doesn't agree that's why 61:40 you had the affair very resolution world 61:44 thinks it's possible that the 61:46 Palestinians think it's possible with 61:48 the both factions father and Hamas which 61:51 again reiterated its support for it so i 61:55 think this reason to believe that is 61:57 possible 61:58 what's crucial is as always what the US 62:01 will do if the u.s. access to the US 62:04 joins the world it will be possible and 62:07 Israel will go along because there are 62:09 many choices and we can do things about 62:11 it like we can stop participating in the 62:14 crimes 62:14 that's not a major 62:18 unimaginable action stop stop 62:22 participating the crimes along with 62:24 what's a human rights watching Amnesty 62:27 International and others are calling for 62:28 that would make a difference now there's 62:31 a lot of it's very common now these days 62:34 to draw analogies between Israel and 62:37 South Africa and most of them are pretty 62:40 dubious in my view but there are some 62:41 which are reasonable and instructive 62:45 okay that's five minutes something I'm 62:51 used to that when my kids were little 62:53 and they asked questions you know that 62:56 they often say just the five minute 62:59 lecture so tired I get the five-minute 63:07 like there's one analogy between Israel 63:11 and South Africa which is very real and 63:14 never discussed probably because it's 63:16 real in around nineteen sixty the South 63:21 African government Nationalist 63:23 government recognized that they're 63:24 becoming an international pariah and the 63:27 South African foreign minister called in 63:32 the American ambassador we have the 63:34 documents now and he 63:35 you talked to him he said look we're 63:37 gettin voted down by everyone in the UN 63:39 everyone supposed to us and so on but 63:42 you and I both know that there's only 63:44 one vote in the UN yours so as long as 63:47 you're with us we don't really care what 63:48 the rest of the world thinks and that's 63:51 pretty much what happened if you look 63:53 through the come following decades by 63:56 the 19th big anti-apartheid movement did 63:58 develop by around nineteen eighty 64:01 American corporations were pulling out 64:03 the the Congress was passing sanctions 64:06 the UN has already declared an embargo 64:08 the nobody was supporting apartheid was 64:12 overwhelming opposition but exit the 64:14 only person who's supporting apartheid 64:16 was Ronald Reagan and his administration 64:18 they were strong supporters of apartheid 64:21 and they continue to support it in the 64:24 framework of what they love the war on 64:26 terror war on terror was declared by 64:28 reagan-bush and had to defend the 64:33 African nationalist the apartheid regime 64:35 against the terrorists nelson mandela 64:39 and the African National Congress and I 64:42 made it literally in 1988 the White 64:47 House declared the ANC Mandela's ANC to 64:51 be one of the more notorious terrorist 64:53 groups in the world of course we had to 64:55 support the white nationalist regime in 64:58 fact Mandela himself only got off the 65:00 terrorist list about two years ago so 65:03 now he can come to the United States 65:05 without a special 65:07 the special arrangement and that 65:10 continued until around nineteen ninety 65:13 at that point US policy changed we don't 65:17 have all the documents being guess what 65:19 Mandela was let out of Robins island a 65:22 couple years later apartheid was gone 65:25 it's not a nice situation pretty rotten 65:28 situation in many ways but at least the 65:30 part height was dismantled which is a 65:33 big victory now that's not the only time 65:35 that that's happened in this case after 65:37 case that when the boss lays down the 65:40 law people have to do something and 65:43 that's you know that's actually an 65:46 optimistic conclusion for us it means 65:49 that it's really very much in our hands 65:51 if we take the right kinds of actions if 65:55 we're capable of if our own society is 65:58 democratic enough so that popular 66:00 opinion makes a difference which it 66:02 should be and if it isn't we have a lot 66:05 to worry about not just this then plenty 66:09 of things we can do to change that to 66:11 compel the united states to join the 66:13 world on this issue as well as others 66:15 and in that case this israel-palestine 66:19 conflict can be certainly mitigated not 66:23 solved but mitigated and blade set on 66:27 the basis to a much more favorable 66:29 outcome that's that's the five minutes





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Ronald Reagan


"The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato


The world is a tragedy to those that feel, and a comedy to those that think...Beppe Grillo

"The people should not fear the government for it is the government who should fear the people" UNKNOWN

"If You are looking for solutions to the world's problems , look in the Mirror , You Are The Solution , You have the power as a human being on this planet " UNKNOWN

"They don't control us , We empower them " UNKNOWN

"Serial Killers do on a Small Scale What Governments do on a large one..."

Serial Killer Richard Ramirez

There is a Class War going on in America, & unfortunately, my class is winning." Warren Buffet

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

Thomas Jefferson

"College is a waste of Money"
Albert Einstein

Schools manufacture people who think that they're smart but they're not.
Robert Kiyosaki

Education is what you learn after you leave School
Robert Kiyosaki

" ‏Schools were designed to create employees for the big corporations."
Robert Kiyosaki


"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey, he is obligated to do so" Thomas Jefferson

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism
Thomas Jefferson

“True education makes you feel stupid. It makes you realize you have so much more to learn.” Robert Kiyosaki


"One day your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it's worth watching." - Gerard Way

"Aspire not to have More but to be More "
UNKNOWN

The losers in life think they have all the answers. They can’t learn because they’re too busy telling everyone what they know.
Robert T. Kiyosaki ‏

"Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again. -This time more intelligently." Henry Ford

What You Own Owns You
UNKNOWN

If you expect the government to solve your problems, you have a problem. Robert Kiyosaki

"Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security." Benjamin Franklin

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"Always trust someone who is seeking the truth , never trust someone who found it" Jordan Maxwell

Be The Change you want to see in The World
UNKNOWN

Failure inspires winners but defeats losers
Robert Kiyosaki ‏

“If you are planning for a year, sow rice; if you are planning for a decade, plant trees; if you are planning for a lifetime, educate people” A Chinese Proverb

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me." UNKNOWN


Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?


Morpheus The Matrix 1999